The reason for Chapter 3 controversy (spoilers)
2025.01.19 15:10 Kebab_Provider The reason for Chapter 3 controversy (spoilers)
As most of you are probably aware, there is quite a bit of controversy regarding the ending of Chapter 3 - capturing the Great Boar, killing piglets and generally fucking up the Forest Primeval and the rest of Drova to some extend in unimaginable way.
I have to preface this by saying that in my opinion the story beat itself is absolutely fantastic as a concept, meant to shove in the face of the player the consequences of their actions, the choice they have made for the greater good resulting in betrayal of the newly found acquaintances and loss of many innocent lives.
The problem lies with the fact that the choice itself does not make sense for most types of characters. In it's core, it is a conflict of interests between the player's faction and the Bounded. Let's look at the following scenarios (do keep in mind that I have only experienced the quest while siding with Nemeton, so I have no idea on the differences that occur if the player aligns themselves with Remnants):
- The player character does not like nor care for the Bounded and is loyal to their respective camp. Result: GOOD, as following through with the plan does not contradict the character's beliefs, there exist dialogue choices that reflect such disposition.
- The player character does care for the Bounded and the Forest Primeval and is loyal to their respective camp. Result: BAD, as the plan of capturing the Divinity contradicts player beliefs without giving them the motivation or reasoning to go through with it. Another major point is that the player character has not interacted in a meaningful way with the Druid (in Nemeton's case) that has come up with the plan, and does not have any substantial reason to trust them. The dialogue choices show the player character's doubts, but in an unsubstantial way. A comparison can be made, for example, with the event of burning Kendrick during the festival. The player character has an option to be much more vocal with their protest, despite having a comparatively much less motivation to do so.
- The player character does care for the Bounded and is not particularly loyal to their respective faction. Result: BAD, as the plan contradicts player beliefs, while not providing the motivation, or the means to protest with the dialogue or actions.
There should be an understandable reason for capturing the Divinity. Option A: Immediate danger to the player's faction that can only be alleviated by capturing the Divinity. In Nemeton's example it could be related to the defensive obelisks running out of power or malfunctioning. That would push the player character to agree with drastic measures to ensure the safety of their camp.
Option B: Very very clearly state that the faction's goal is not achievable in any perceived way without capturing the Divinity. That, I assume, is the original intended explanation, but it falls short as it is not reinforced or singled out as the only available choice. Instead, the news are dropped on the player's head right nearing the end of the expedition understandably leading to an immediate negative response, that the player is not able to express. It is completely fine to strip away the agency, but the player should be able to express their discontent with the whole situation in a more meaningful way, without feeling like their character slightly reluctantly agrees.
The reason I have written this monument of text is that the proposed changes are essentially slight differences in dialogue that would substantially easier to implement as opposed to the common request of implementing a whole other way of handling the quest or siding with the Bounded.
I would be very curious to see the opinion of the community on this matter. The developers have been quite actively listening to feedback on various platforms, and in my opinion slight changes in the way the quest is handled could result in a much lower amount of negative feelings.
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After Jacob left that day, I confronted my daughter. I asked her point-blank, “Are you cheating on your boyfriend with another guy?” She said it was none of my business and that her personal life was hers only. I told her she was wrong and that I raised her better than to treat people like this. She told me she was bored with Jacob and that Brandon was more her type now. I told her that if she wasn’t happy, she should just break up with Jacob. She said she didn’t know if she wanted to be with Brandon or if she was just having fun flirting and teasing. I told her cheating was unacceptable and wrong, and as a consequence, I grounded her. I also told her she wasn’t allowed to go on her senior trip with her friends. She obviously did not take that too well and has been at her dad’s place for the last couple of days.
My ex husband called me, saying I was being unreasonable not letting her go on the trip and that her and Jacob was just a “high school thing” He then told me I needed to put my “bitterness aside” and “stop punishing his daughter.” I told him I was teaching our daughter right from wrong, and that actions have consequences.
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