Cyber Essentials - Device Locking Method - Windows Hello For Business 6-digit PIN is insufficient
2025.01.24 08:40 Simong_1984 Cyber Essentials - Device Locking Method - Windows Hello For Business 6-digit PIN is insufficient
Hi all,
We're renewing Cyber Essentials for the fourth year. This year, however, the auditor has asked for more clarification on question A5.10, Device Locking Method, which was not queried last year.
The question is: "Which method do you use to unlock the devices?".
When our users log in to a Windows device, for example, they can use biometrics (face or fingerprint) or a PIN; the PIN is required as a fallback measure should biometrics not be available (i.e., the camera/fingerprint reader stops working). Should the user log in with a PIN, this logs them into their device and grants them access to organisational data; for example, they can open Outlook and access company emails without further authentication. However, as we utilise Windows Hello For Business, our understanding is that this constitutes MFA as having access to the device itself is one factor and knowing the PIN (which is only associated with that device) is the second factor. The PIN unlocks the TPM; the resulting key is used to authenticate the usedevice with Microsoft Entra and grant access to organisational data. Additionally, we protect our authentication methods against brute-force attacks through throttling and hard limits.
Having reached out to IASME, their response is as follows;
A PIN of six digits can only be used when unlocking a device. If using that six digit PIN grants access to organisational data or services without the need for further authentication, then the PIN would need to meet the password requirements, which would mean the PIN need to be at least twelve digits.I'm genuinely speechless, as we now have no option but to force everyone onto a 12-digit PIN. Most users prefer the PIN over biometrics, so this won't be welcomed news.
MFA requires the user to have two or more types of credentials before being able to access an account. Only using a PIN to gain access to a device is a single factor.
The three types are:
Something you know, such as a personal identification number (PIN), password or a security question (what is the name of your first pet?)
Something you have, such as an ATM card, phone, or key fob (a small security device with built-in authentication)
Something you are, such as a fingerprint, retinal pattern, or voice print. These factors are called biometrics.
While a trusted device can be used as a form of MFA, this is typically for something, such as a cloud service, which can be accessed from anywhere. As a PIN that is being used to unlock a device already requires having the device, this would not count as a form of MFA, as that PIN is used to unlock that device, and that device alone. If the device was lost or stolen, it is only the PIN that would be needed to gain access to it (and subsequently the organisational data and services within), hence this being considered a single factor.
Their parting comment is, "If the device was lost or stolen, it is only the PIN that would be needed to gain access to it (and subsequently the organisational data and services within), hence this being considered a single factor". Surely stealing the device AND knowing the PIN are two factors? It's no different from stealing a Yubikey and knowing the PIN.
Has anyone else had experience with this question?
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