Advice needed / should we hire a professional trainer to do an assessment and support the new addition
2025.01.24 08:31 jd2174 Advice needed / should we hire a professional trainer to do an assessment and support the new addition
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This is a long post! A relatively accurate summary generated by Copilot is at the bottom of the post. Sorry for rambling/typos, I haven't had a lot of quality sleep.
Human generated:
We adopted a greyhound a week ago. She's 4 years old and has a great personality, and seems to be a quick learner. I'm looking for some advice about a few tricky things that are happening and how others have managed them. I've read a lot on the subreddit but this bundle of issues seems to be related in that she appears to be anxious/scared and I'm wondering if a sort of "holistic" approach is needed. She has been to the vet and seems not to have any other health issues aside from needing her teeth cleaned.
Her history: She was a racing greyhound for ~2 years. From what we can gather, she was a bit too goofy to be a racer. The person who adopted her doesn't seem to have looked after her very well, and they abandoned her. She hasn't been trained much at all and doesn't seem to have been socialised with many other dogs as the person looking after her wasn't able to do so. Based on how she was on walks, it doesn't seem like that was something she did before now.
Here's what's going on:
Walking
- General walking:
- At first: She was virtually unwalkable due to leash pulling, darting around, etc.
- In the past week: She managed to learn a rudimentary "heel".
- Now: She doing much better with pulling. She's made really great progress in one week.
- Other info: She usually won't eat treats on walks as she is far too focussed on smelling everything she possibly can.
- Current roadblock/advice needed: Some things seem to really be freaking her out on walks. She will suddenly freeze and be completely unmovable. In this state she's almost completely unresponsive. Getting her to move helps get her out of it, but this takes a lot of coaxing and often physically moving her to get her out of the freeze response. Walking her in circles doesn't work because she absolutely will not move/be distracted. Any tips to get her out of freeze in a way that is helpful to her would be appreciated.
- Other people when walking:
- At first: She loved other people and tried to jump onto every person she saw.
- In the past week: Distracting her and speeding up while walking, along with very loudly saying, "We're not making any new friends today" to signal to the other person/people that it wouldn't be good to interact with her, has helped her focus on continuing the walk.
- No roadblock/advice needed, she's doing well with this. We're working on jumping at home, too.
- Other dogs when walking:
- At first- large/medium non-fluffy dogs: She showed some play behaviours, but then seemed to get scared and display aggression. She doesn't seem to know what to do in these scenarios.
- At first- Small or fluffy dogs (any size!): If a dog is small and/or fluffy, she thinks it is prey.
- In the past week: We have tried to redirect her, but she almost always appears ready to fight/attack the other dog. She will eventually move away if something significant enough gets her attention, but if she is "locked in" on a small dog it can be quite difficult. Other owners appear frustratingly relaxed about this, not seeing clear signs of aggression because they saw a few play behaviours, we have been quite firm with them about keeping their dog away. Most have obliged because they see she's muzzled (legal requirement). Owners of small dogs don't recognise prey drive but do at least walk their dog away.
- Current roadblock/advice needed: Since she won't have food on walks, what can we do to adequately distract her from these situations / how do we socialise her properly to stop doing this? I'm hesitant to take her to classes muzzled and unable to defend herself.
- At first: She came to us trained to go outside, but didn't have a schedule or know how to signal she needed to go.
- In the past week: We only have concrete out the back, so got her a "puppy potty" with grass. There has been great progress- she went from being confused about what it was/afraid of it to peeing on it after extreme amounts of treats/praise to help her know it was okay for her to use it. Other than that, she's been going on walks and has no qualms about that. There have been a few accidents inside, but that's to be expected. Considering how weird I'd feel about peeing in a grass box, she's doing a great job.
- Other info: To attempt to get her to let us know when she needs to go outside, we open the back door and say "outside". This has had mixed results, but usually she gets up, trots in a circle out the back, and goes back into the house.
- Current roadblock/advice needed: What is the best way to support her to signal when she needs to go outside, and help her feel like it's okay and safe to use the grass out there to go to the toilet?
- At first: We have two floors- a living area downstairs and bedrooms upstairs. She is terrified of stairs. She is somewhat anxious about being left alone and will whine with a touch of fancy howling.
- In the past week:
- Anxiety: We discovered she was quite anxious about being left alone, and at first tried training her with "bed" to go to bed and lay down when we go upstairs or into the bathroom. We started with smaller intervals, and increased the time we were upstairs, ignoring her complaints. We'd also respond minimally when coming back downstairs. She's now managing to soothe herself (albeit with some complaining) when we leave her. This has helped, but she struggles to be left for more than a few hours during the day when she can hear we're upstairs working etc. She is a little better at night, but can get a bit creative with her crying at times. It doesn't seem like she needs to use the toilet, either, because she won't go if offered the opportunity.
- Stairs: Unlike the advice online about carrying greyhounds up and downstairs, she hates being picked up and has a freeze response when you do it. While she isn't the biggest greyhound (25kg), this makes it incredibly hard to carry her in a way that feels safe because she becomes a very weirdly shaped brick. We have also tried, as people on Reddit, YouTube videos, guides, etc. suggested, to help her up the stairs one paw at a time with lots of treats and praise. This also causes a significant freeze response. We have decided to stop trying with the stairs for now to avoid traumatising her further. We are also going to try to keep associating the stairs with positive things.
- Current roadblock/advice needed: There are two key things
- What are the best ways to support her to know we won't abandon her, we are just upstairs doing our jobs to support her lavish lifestyle? And;
- How can we reduce the feafreeze response to the stairs without traumatising her? She is very happy to eat treats from the bottom step, but that doesn't seem to be cutting it.
Summarised by AI:
Background:
- Former racing greyhound, abandoned by previous owner.
- Not well-socialized or trained.
- No major health issues, but needs dental cleaning.
- Initially difficult due to leash pulling and darting.
- Improved significantly in one week, learning to "heel."
- Issues with freezing and becoming unresponsive on walks. Seeking advice on how to handle this. Note: Food won't work as a distraction on walks.
- Initially tried to jump on everyone.
- Improved with distraction techniques and clear signals to others.
- Shows aggression towards small/fluffy dogs.
- Seeking advice on how to distract her and properly socialize her without using food. Note: Food won't work as a distraction on walks.
- Trained to go outside but had no schedule or signal.
- Progress with using a "puppy potty" with grass.
- Seeking advice on how to signal when she needs to go outside.
- Terrified of stairs and has a freeze response when carried.
- Some improvement with separation anxiety using training techniques.
- Seeking advice on reducing fear of stairs and reassuring her when left alone.
- Support her to become less afraid and more comfortable in her new environment.
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