THIS is what Hiccup lacks in the shows that makes him so unlikeable to me. 2 does better
2025.02.02 03:01 Dart_Lover_HTTYD THIS is what Hiccup lacks in the shows that makes him so unlikeable to me. 2 does better
Hi! :D
Before I being feel free to tell me if you agree or disagree with me.
Now let's begin.
In the shows more particularly rtte, Hiccup has at least a few new differences between him and his movie version.
And those are he is significantly less witty, he is far more serious without ever really earning it, he is constantly challenged by Viggo and because of that he can be rather blind to quite obvious traps(there was even a whole episode about that), he is more lenient with Astrid often bending to her will, he is heroic right off the bat, he is limited in his smarts to make the plot worse, he is incredibly unware of Astrid's feelings for him, he has less of a bond with dragons and apparently can't train any dragon, and to top it off, the writers didn't handel him with the care needed to get his character just right now instead they just do whatever they want with him, he even disrespects Gustav and denied him being a rider despite being older than when he first started.
Now that I've boiled down what I don't like about rtte Hiccup, I now see why I like movie Hiccup so here more.
In the httyd 2 filmmakers commentary they explained the process of bringing Hiccup into it and growing it up.
And reading it, made me realise everything above, the httyd 2 team cared so, so much more than the rtte team.
Here it is for you all to read, afterwards I'll give you the short version:
Simon Otto: Yeah. And I get this process of bringing Hiccup from the first movie to the second movie. These were the first scenes we were animating, where we really had to act and bring that slight awkwardness that he had in the first movie. Also, some of the body language Jay Baruchel, the voice of the character, has in his performances and.. Cause we wanted to make sure he is aspirational and he's grown up and he's grown into his own body but at the same time he's still a little bit of a geek, he's still slightly awkward and dangaly, you know the ill-equiptness he had in the first movie is still mirrored in his behavior.
Dean DeBlois: Yeah, he's still not the Viking of brawn and muscle that his father may have hoped for early on. He's become a hero in his own way and an advanced thinker but he still compensates for his slight build, just being witty and intelligent. That's what's so likable about Hiccup.
Simon Otto: And it was a fine line to walk, you know. If we had made him too heroic and too muscular and strong and standing his ground right from the beginning, people would have had a hard time connecting with him and recognizing the character. And, it frankly would have been less endearing, less charming, and we're playing with this quite a bit in this scene all the way to the end of the movie. He definitely evolves and grows into his own and stands his ground more. The cadence of his acting calms down through the movie, and something you might not notice when you watch it, but you feel it as you're watching Hiccup become the Chief he needs to be.
Bonnie Arnold: I just remember the first tests we did when were not only using some new software for animation, but also testing Hiccup with all of his stuff, and one of our supervising animators, Fabio Linguini, who animated on Hiccup, did that test for us. It helped define it for us.
Simon Otto: It showed us for the first time, that test actually showed us the potential that our software has and also showed us how appealing Hiccup can be, and yet Hiccup was a very tricky character to animate because there's a lot of, like you can pull him off what felt like Hiccup very quickly and so we needed the real team of few animators that mostly stayed on Hiccup, really handled him in a particular way, found that right balance between nerdiness and more heroic aspiration.
Quite the read wasn't it? But it made me realise just how much care,
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